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		<title>By: Peter C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 19:08:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I probably should have added that I only know about software/web stuff. I literally have 0 knowledge outside those areas. 

It&#039;d be really interesting to see what the various barriers to entry are for other stuff, as I type this I remember a startup I meant to show Laurence ... friend angel invested, hardware thing, uniquely low barrier to entry, totally game changing. You guys should remind me next OpenCoffee, OK?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I probably should have added that I only know about software/web stuff. I literally have 0 knowledge outside those areas. </p>
<p>It&#8217;d be really interesting to see what the various barriers to entry are for other stuff, as I type this I remember a startup I meant to show Laurence &#8230; friend angel invested, hardware thing, uniquely low barrier to entry, totally game changing. You guys should remind me next OpenCoffee, OK?</p>
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		<title>By: Peter C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 18:54:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Startups need to be around other startups, this is almost a fact -- we thrive under pressure, we buzz whilst other founders are giving us ideas, and the network of contacts is a massive bonus too.

The money, as YC proved, is irrelevant. There is a major point a lot of people appear to miss. &quot;Is $15K a lot? is it enough?&quot; the difference between $15K and $0K is enormous to a couple of university graduates wondering what to do next. The difference between $15K and $150K? Nowhere near as different to (poor) founders. 
You&#039;ll probably scare a few startups off if you toss big &quot;$100K&quot; digits at them -- hackers are hackers, not managers. 

Yes, if you *want* to found a startup you&#039;ll *eventually* save the money to startup. But why not solve that problem for the founders? take the worry and time spent saving money up out of the loop. If, in 4 months, I can&#039;t blow an investors minds, I&#039;m probably wasting my time. And your time. I don&#039;t want to be labelled that, so I&#039;d better be fucking efficient.

Do investors want founders with background in this stuff? Expect a massive salary then, maybe they can&#039;t even code. They&#039;ll run away from your $15K and crack jokes at you. A lot of them can&#039;t &quot;fuck shit up&quot; [as the YC startup proved at Red Gate] because they&#039;ll probably go bust and lose their mortgage. What does Doug Richard say? No risk no reward, Huge risk huge reward... QED

Do you want driven founders just out [or still in] university, that can code, that live on ramen anyway and want to change the world? $15K and a day or two of advice a fortnight is gold to them. Literally. 

Both models work perfectly. If you&#039;re lucky.

Are the economics of having 10 companies at $200K better than 100 companies at $20K? I have no idea. Those $200K investments are probably safer, which your fund manager will appreciate. A hacker won&#039;t, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Startups need to be around other startups, this is almost a fact &#8212; we thrive under pressure, we buzz whilst other founders are giving us ideas, and the network of contacts is a massive bonus too.</p>
<p>The money, as YC proved, is irrelevant. There is a major point a lot of people appear to miss. &#8220;Is $15K a lot? is it enough?&#8221; the difference between $15K and $0K is enormous to a couple of university graduates wondering what to do next. The difference between $15K and $150K? Nowhere near as different to (poor) founders.<br />
You&#8217;ll probably scare a few startups off if you toss big &#8220;$100K&#8221; digits at them &#8212; hackers are hackers, not managers. </p>
<p>Yes, if you *want* to found a startup you&#8217;ll *eventually* save the money to startup. But why not solve that problem for the founders? take the worry and time spent saving money up out of the loop. If, in 4 months, I can&#8217;t blow an investors minds, I&#8217;m probably wasting my time. And your time. I don&#8217;t want to be labelled that, so I&#8217;d better be fucking efficient.</p>
<p>Do investors want founders with background in this stuff? Expect a massive salary then, maybe they can&#8217;t even code. They&#8217;ll run away from your $15K and crack jokes at you. A lot of them can&#8217;t &#8220;fuck shit up&#8221; [as the YC startup proved at Red Gate] because they&#8217;ll probably go bust and lose their mortgage. What does Doug Richard say? No risk no reward, Huge risk huge reward&#8230; QED</p>
<p>Do you want driven founders just out [or still in] university, that can code, that live on ramen anyway and want to change the world? $15K and a day or two of advice a fortnight is gold to them. Literally. </p>
<p>Both models work perfectly. If you&#8217;re lucky.</p>
<p>Are the economics of having 10 companies at $200K better than 100 companies at $20K? I have no idea. Those $200K investments are probably safer, which your fund manager will appreciate. A hacker won&#8217;t, though.</p>
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		<title>By: blog.jedchristiansen.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Amir Nathoo, WebMynd, Cambridge &#38; Y Combinator</title>
		<link>http://laurencejohn.com/2009/03/26/kiki-booba/comment-page-1/#comment-11</link>
		<dc:creator>blog.jedchristiansen.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Amir Nathoo, WebMynd, Cambridge &#38; Y Combinator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 15:10:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Laurence has started discussing this a bit on his blog, and I look forward to hearing more about it. Based on some things he said Wednesday night, it makes sense that any program needs to come from a consortium of angels or VC&#8217;s. This eliminates any negative connotation if a particular angel or VC chooses not to further invest in a company that was accepted into the program. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Laurence has started discussing this a bit on his blog, and I look forward to hearing more about it. Based on some things he said Wednesday night, it makes sense that any program needs to come from a consortium of angels or VC&#8217;s. This eliminates any negative connotation if a particular angel or VC chooses not to further invest in a company that was accepted into the program. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jed Christiansen</title>
		<link>http://laurencejohn.com/2009/03/26/kiki-booba/comment-page-1/#comment-10</link>
		<dc:creator>Jed Christiansen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 14:11:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, Laurence.  (The image isn&#039;t showing for me, but saw it up on Wikipedia.)

I&#039;m curious how you plan to link synesthesia to seed investing...

As for Y Combinator, I&#039;ve been thinking about it more and think it succeeds in particular for two specific reasons.

1- They have a philosophy of throwing around lots of small amounts of cash, and expect to have a good number of &quot;misses.&quot;  Which is a bit different than even what I understand most other investors are willing to do.

2- They&#039;re physically located in the heart of their market: San Francisco.  (Assuming their market is generally web-enabled software.)

No other city can &quot;re-create&quot; Y Combinator because they don&#039;t have both parts.  But there is a potential to leverage a particular city&#039;s expertise to transform the model a bit.  For example, you could create a Y Combinator-like program in Seattle where your defined target market is software/hardware built off the Microsoft platform.  I think there&#039;s the possibility to do the same thing in Cambridge with some really high-tech hardware &amp; software developments.  (Like your #camrev line... go into the labs, steal their stuff.)

Perhaps food for thought...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Laurence.  (The image isn&#8217;t showing for me, but saw it up on Wikipedia.)</p>
<p>I&#8217;m curious how you plan to link synesthesia to seed investing&#8230;</p>
<p>As for Y Combinator, I&#8217;ve been thinking about it more and think it succeeds in particular for two specific reasons.</p>
<p>1- They have a philosophy of throwing around lots of small amounts of cash, and expect to have a good number of &#8220;misses.&#8221;  Which is a bit different than even what I understand most other investors are willing to do.</p>
<p>2- They&#8217;re physically located in the heart of their market: San Francisco.  (Assuming their market is generally web-enabled software.)</p>
<p>No other city can &#8220;re-create&#8221; Y Combinator because they don&#8217;t have both parts.  But there is a potential to leverage a particular city&#8217;s expertise to transform the model a bit.  For example, you could create a Y Combinator-like program in Seattle where your defined target market is software/hardware built off the Microsoft platform.  I think there&#8217;s the possibility to do the same thing in Cambridge with some really high-tech hardware &amp; software developments.  (Like your #camrev line&#8230; go into the labs, steal their stuff.)</p>
<p>Perhaps food for thought&#8230;</p>
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